Hey Guys I'm trying to book a ticket from LAX to NRT and I want the cheapest fully refundable ticket possible.
I got "Fully Flexible" tickets on Hold on AA.com, and I called up their representatives just to double check. The lady first told me it's not refundable b/c they only refund biz/first classes. Then she double checked, and said they only do full refunds on fully refundable first class tickets. It that just her not understand their own policy or what?
I'm pasting both of the fair rules down below. Can someone please take a look and tell me if it's really refundable?
Thanks a million!
Y1ERTJ
Seasonality SEASONALITY - NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
Day Time Application DAY/TIME - NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
Advance Reservation Ticketing Restrictions ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING - STANDBY NOT PERMITTED. OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE MORE THAN 3 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE-TICKETING IS REQUIRED 3 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE -WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE 3 DAYS OR LESS BEFORE DEPARTURE-TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. ----- DUE TO AUTOMATED TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE FARE RULE LAST TICKETING DATE AND THE SYSTEM GENERATED TICKETING DEADLINE MESSAGE. THE MORE RESTRICTIVE TICKETING DEADLINE APPLIES.
Surcharges SURCHARGES - IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2. OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2. OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 2. OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2. SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA HKG AIRPORT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO - 1/ INFANTS. 2/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG. 3/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS. 4/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR US. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR AY. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR BA. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR IB. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR JL. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR QF. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR LX. THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER FARE COMPONENT PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. YR FEE MAY APPLY AND - SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA HKG AIRPORT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO - 1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG. 2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS. 3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS. AND - AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA MEXICO. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THIS IS A BAGGAGE INSPECTION SURCHARGE WHICH APPLIES TO ADT/CHD. IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. OTHERWISE - ORIGINATING AREA 1 - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 86.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THIS SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. THIS SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON FREE TICKETS. AND - ORIGINATING JAPAN - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF JPY 10500 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THIS SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. THIS SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON FREE TICKETS. AND - SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA HKG AIRPORT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO - 1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG. 2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS. 3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS. AND - AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA MEXICO. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THIS IS A BAGGAGE INSPECTION SURCHARGE WHICH APPLIES TO ADT/CHD. IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
Maximum Stay MAXIMUM STAY - NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
Eligibility ELIGIBILITY - NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
Sales Restrictions SALES RESTRICTIONS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS PERMITTED. TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA. TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
Refunds Reissues VOLUNTARY CHANGES - ENTER RD*31 OR RD'LINE NUM'*31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.
Flight Applications FLIGHT APPLICATION - THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1 THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT ANY JL FLIGHT.
Minimum Stay MINIMUM STAY - NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
Embargo Dates BLACKOUT DATES - NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
Penalties PENALTIES - NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE ' CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
Rule Application and Other Conditions RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS - NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. NORTH AND CENTRAL PACIFIC FARES APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY BETWEEN AREA 3 AND AREA 1. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS, WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST JUDGEMENT. RULES NOT APPLICABLE 35 - PASSENGER EXPENSES EN ROUTE.