Originally posted by Spiff:
That's a terrible argument for not tipping. Your gripe is with the whole concept of tipping - you shouldn't take it out on the poor person who serving you. Sorry if the concept of adding something extra to the quoted price offends you, but as islandcub stated, restaurants aren't going to raise quoted prices and adjust minimum wages.
Of course not. They prefer the deceptive and fraudulent practice of quoting one price while expecting a higher one to be paid.
I don't object to the whole concept of tipping. I object to the concept of almost-obligatory but not stated tipping.
I've been to restaurants all over the world in which tipping is not expected and full prices are listed in the menu. To return to this thread a little more closely, I've been to buffets in the USA which have stated that a 15% service charge would be added to the cost of the meal.
I have no problem with either of these situations. I only have a problem with amounts that are expected but not listed and with workers not being paid properly by their employer. If you saw a toaster in a shop for $20 and the checkout person expected an extra $3, would you pay it?