Originally Posted by
ou81two
Go ahead and look at the samsung innovation in phones before Apple launched an iphone.
Samsung wasn't in the smartphone business in any meaningful sense before Apple launched the iPhone. OTOH, Samsung wasn't in the smartphone business in any meaningful sense for a couple of years AFTER Apple launched the iPhone.
If you look at Palm, Microsoft, HTC, and Nokia, all four of them were in the smartphone business well before Apple, and defined a lot of things that Apple ended up copying.