Thanks all. I've been to SEL 3-4 times over the past few years, and I never saw the 30 minute traffic, either. I couldn't remember if there was a train - I just remembered the KAL Limousine Bus.

We had tried to do an extra day, but office situations changed, but we were unwilling to forego the weekend where our spouses were also out of town on business to do something this brazenly stupid.

Now we're working on the 1K ups.

Doesn't look good - taking my prophylactic aspirin.

Miles Good. Clots Bad.

Greg