Originally Posted by
pbd456
unless one do a DONE5 from South africa, it is not possible to avoid the north america crappy F unless you need the F credit.
North American F isn't that bad. OK it is not a flat-bed and there is no IFE, but it isn't that bad, could even be classed as pleasant and mildly enjoyable. If you want bad, try "business" class within Europe - I can guarantee, if you haven't tried it before, the first time you get on, you will think "oh business class does not exist on this route, this is an all-economy aircraft"