Originally Posted by
moops380
sounds like a good plan going forward. 2.1% is not attractive with AF when 2.0 (or 3.0 for first year with disc or 3.0 with that other japenese card) for no AF.
Chip+pin with A+ has been good for...
1. kiosks (train stations)
2. tolls in france, etc.
Hope the new aviator card by barclays will continue its generous AF waiver forever. The 5-10 times per year I reload my oyster card or train stations elsewhere in the world is not really worth the AF if I had to pay.
With new regulations in the USA for chip cards starting oct 1, I'm sure we'll see some no-AF products with full chip capacity sometime in the next year or so. All the banks will be like "wow that 10 billions dollars per year we saved from fraud prevention with chip+pin was a really good idea."
What is your definition of full chip implementation? There are a few emv compliant cards being issued in the USA today with no annual fee and no foreign transaction fee. Do you mean cards which have pin as the primary card verification method (cvm). In pure simple English, it ain't gonna happen. The banks have made it pretty clear that they consider chip and signature good enough...and frankly they are correct. As far as using tfl vending machines in London and the national rail machines at the main line stations, you are all set. None of them require pins. As it stands now, there will be a few "oddball" so to speak banks trying to implement pins but the chances ate, although one can't say for sure, since almost no merchants really want to touch pins these cards are more likely to revert to signature priority rather than have the large banks implement pin priority here. That train has long ago left the station.