I apologize for overlooking the Ety’s. I was skimming the thread. I tuned in on the mp3 players. I have had 2, a 64 mg and a 128 mg Rio. They are nice for a jog but don’t cut it for travel. I bought and ipod a few months ago. I keep a couple of audio books and tons of music on the ipod. On a long flight I settle in and leave the world behind.