Originally Posted by
lorkers
It may be worthwhile checking the fare rules, because although booking into I class, J class fare rules apply for short to longhaul out of OSL.
I- fares for travel beginning outside the United Kingdom are much more flexible than I- fares from within the United Kingdom. That is a deliberate commercial policy because of the competition offered by other airlines outside the UK. However there is nothing to stop BA tightening this up if they wish.
This is nothing to do with the booking code you have on the shorthaul sector---it is a complete red herring.
Originally Posted by
lorkers
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
ORIGINATING EUROPE -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT EUR 200.00 EACH.
- It's hard to get this to work. I was trying to do a OSL-LHR-MAD-LHR-HKG but BA ticketing said no dice. It's backtracking.
Even without your backtrack, the routing table of this fare only allows specific routes. You are not free to construct whatever you want.
For illustration I post the current OSL-SYD INCEU28 routing table.
Code:
Fare Routing Search:
Departing OSL on 21/03/15 for SYD
Fare basis code INCEU28
Flying BA
Routing via Eastern Hemisphere
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 INCEU28 I‡R 2424.00 ---- 28/7 SU/12M EH01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-OSL TO-SYD CXR-BA TVL-21MAR15 RULE-4104 IPREUAS/4
FARE BASIS-INCEU28 SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BAR RT-2ND LEVEL BUSINESS CLASS ADVANCE PURCHASE
NOK 20041 0005 E17NOV14 D-INFINITY FC-INCEU28 FN-
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 16NOV14/1618 EXPIRES INFINITY
PUBLISHED RTG OSL-SYD/BA5 /TAR-EURG EF-17NOV14 DIS-INDEF
/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-3K/BA/BR/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/
PG/PR/QF/QR/VF-AMI/BKI/BPN/BWN/CEB/CNX/DAD/DVO/HAN/HKT/
KCH/KHH/KMG/LGK/LPQ/LPT/MDC/MES/MNL/PEN/PHS/PLM/PNH/REP/
RGN/SGN/SOC/SUB/TDX/TPE/USM/VTE-3K/BA/BR/CX/KA/MH/MI/PG/
QF/QR/VF/VN-BJS/BKK/DPS/HKG/JKT/KUL/LOP/MNL/SHA/SIN/TPE-
3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
2. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-3K/BA/BR/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/
PG/PR/QF/QR/VF-AMI/BKI/BPN/BWN/CEB/CNX/DAD/DVO/HAN/HKT/
KCH/KHH/KMG/LGK/LPQ/LPT/MDC/MES/MNL/PEN/PHS/PLM/PNH/REP/
RGN/SGN/SOC/SUB/TDX/TPE/USM/VTE-3K/BA/BR/CX/KA/MH/MI/PG/
QF/QR/VF/VN-BJS/BKK/DPS/HKG/JKT/KUL/LOP/MNL/SHA/SIN/TPE-
3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
3. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-3K/BA/BR/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/
PG/PR/QF/QR/VF-AMI/BKI/BPN/BWN/CEB/CNX/DAD/DVO/HAN/HKT/
KCH/KHH/KMG/LGK/LPQ/LPT/MDC/MES/MNL/PEN/PHS/PLM/PNH/REP/
RGN/SGN/SOC/SUB/TDX/TPE/USM/VTE-BI-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-3K/BA/
CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
4. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-3K/BA/BR/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/
PG/PR/QF/QR/VF-AMI/BKI/BPN/BWN/CEB/CNX/DAD/DVO/HAN/HKT/
KCH/KHH/KMG/LGK/LPQ/LPT/MDC/MES/MNL/PEN/PHS/PLM/PNH/REP/
RGN/SGN/SOC/SUB/TDX/TPE/USM/VTE-BI-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-3K/BA/
CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
5. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-3K/BA/BR/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/
PG/PR/QF/QR/VF-AMI/BKI/BPN/BWN/CEB/CNX/DAD/DVO/HAN/HKT/
KCH/KHH/KMG/LGK/LPQ/LPT/MDC/MES/MNL/PEN/PHS/PLM/PNH/REP/
RGN/SGN/SOC/SUB/TDX/TPE/USM/VTE-CI-HKG-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-
BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
6. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-3K/BA/BR/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/
PG/PR/QF/QR/VF-AMI/BKI/BPN/BWN/CEB/CNX/DAD/DVO/HAN/HKT/
KCH/KHH/KMG/LGK/LPQ/LPT/MDC/MES/MNL/PEN/PHS/PLM/PNH/REP/
RGN/SGN/SOC/SUB/TDX/TPE/USM/VTE-CI-HKG-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-
SYD
7. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-3K/BA/BR/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/
PG/PR/QF/QR/VF-AMI/BKI/BPN/BWN/CEB/CNX/DAD/DVO/HAN/HKT/
KCH/KHH/KMG/LGK/LPQ/LPT/MDC/MES/MNL/PEN/PHS/PLM/PNH/REP/
RGN/SGN/SOC/SUB/TDX/TPE/USM/VTE-PR-BKK/HKG/SIN-3K/BA/CX/
JQ/MH/QF-BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
8. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-3K/BA/BR/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/
PG/PR/QF/QR/VF-AMI/BKI/BPN/BWN/CEB/CNX/DAD/DVO/HAN/HKT/
KCH/KHH/KMG/LGK/LPQ/LPT/MDC/MES/MNL/PEN/PHS/PLM/PNH/REP/
RGN/SGN/SOC/SUB/TDX/TPE/USM/VTE-PR-BKK/HKG/SIN-3K/BA/CX/
JQ/MH/QF-SYD
9. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-BI-BWN-3K/BA/BR/CX/KA/MH/MI/PG/QF/
QR/VF/VN-BJS/BKK/DPS/HKG/JKT/KUL/LOP/MNL/SHA/SIN/TPE-3K/
BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
10. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-BI-BWN-3K/BA/BR/CX/KA/MH/MI/PG/QF/
QR/VF/VN-BJS/BKK/DPS/HKG/JKT/KUL/LOP/MNL/SHA/SIN/TPE-3K/
BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
11. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-BI-BWN-BI-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-3K/BA/CX/
JQ/MH/QF-BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
12. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-BI-BWN-BI-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-3K/BA/CX/
JQ/MH/QF-SYD
13. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-BI-BWN-CI-HKG-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/
DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
14. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-BI-BWN-CI-HKG-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
15. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-BI-BWN-PR-BKK/HKG/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/
MH/QF-BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
16. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-BI-BWN-PR-BKK/HKG/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/
MH/QF-SYD
17. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-DPS-GA-JKT-3K/BA/BR/CX/KA/MH/MI/PG/QF/QR/VF/VN-BJS/
BKK/DPS/HKG/JKT/KUL/LOP/MNL/SHA/SIN/TPE-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-
BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
18. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-DPS-GA-JKT-3K/BA/BR/CX/KA/MH/MI/PG/QF/QR/VF/VN-BJS/
BKK/DPS/HKG/JKT/KUL/LOP/MNL/SHA/SIN/TPE-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-
SYD
19. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-DPS-GA-JKT-BI-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/
DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
20. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-DPS-GA-JKT-BI-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
21. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-DPS-GA-JKT-CI-HKG-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/DRW/PER-BA/
JQ/QF-SYD
22. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-DPS-GA-JKT-CI-HKG-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
23. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-DPS-GA-JKT-PR-BKK/HKG/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/DRW/
PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
24. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-DPS-GA-JKT-PR-BKK/HKG/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
25. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-SIN-GA-JKT-GA-AMQ/BDJ/BIK/BPN/BTH/BTJ/DJB/JOG/KDI/
MDC/MES/MLG/PDG/PGK/PKU/PKY/PLM/PLW/PNK/SOC/SRG/TIM/TKG/
TRK/UPG-GA-JKT-3K/BA/BR/CX/KA/MH/MI/PG/QF/QR/VF/VN-BJS/
BKK/DPS/HKG/JKT/KUL/LOP/MNL/SHA/SIN/TPE-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-
BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
26. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-SIN-GA-JKT-GA-AMQ/BDJ/BIK/BPN/BTH/BTJ/DJB/JOG/KDI/
MDC/MES/MLG/PDG/PGK/PKU/PKY/PLM/PLW/PNK/SOC/SRG/TIM/TKG/
TRK/UPG-GA-JKT-3K/BA/BR/CX/KA/MH/MI/PG/QF/QR/VF/VN-BJS/
BKK/DPS/HKG/JKT/KUL/LOP/MNL/SHA/SIN/TPE-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-
SYD
27. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-SIN-GA-JKT-GA-AMQ/BDJ/BIK/BPN/BTH/BTJ/DJB/JOG/KDI/
MDC/MES/MLG/PDG/PGK/PKU/PKY/PLM/PLW/PNK/SOC/SRG/TIM/TKG/
TRK/UPG-GA-JKT-BI-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/
DRW/PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
28. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-SIN-GA-JKT-GA-AMQ/BDJ/BIK/BPN/BTH/BTJ/DJB/JOG/KDI/
MDC/MES/MLG/PDG/PGK/PKU/PKY/PLM/PLW/PNK/SOC/SRG/TIM/TKG/
TRK/UPG-GA-JKT-BI-BKK/HKG/KUL/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
29. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-SIN-GA-JKT-GA-AMQ/BDJ/BIK/BPN/BTH/BTJ/DJB/JOG/KDI/
MDC/MES/MLG/PDG/PGK/PKU/PKY/PLM/PLW/PNK/SOC/SRG/TIM/TKG/
TRK/UPG-GA-JKT-CI-HKG-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/DRW/PER-BA/JQ/
QF-SYD
30. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-SIN-GA-JKT-GA-AMQ/BDJ/BIK/BPN/BTH/BTJ/DJB/JOG/KDI/
MDC/MES/MLG/PDG/PGK/PKU/PKY/PLM/PLW/PNK/SOC/SRG/TIM/TKG/
TRK/UPG-GA-JKT-CI-HKG-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
31. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-SIN-GA-JKT-GA-AMQ/BDJ/BIK/BPN/BTH/BTJ/DJB/JOG/KDI/
MDC/MES/MLG/PDG/PGK/PKU/PKY/PLM/PLW/PNK/SOC/SRG/TIM/TKG/
TRK/UPG-GA-JKT-PR-BKK/HKG/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-BNE/DRW/
PER-BA/JQ/QF-SYD
32. OSL-LON-BJS/BKK/CTU/HKG/KUL/SHA/SIN-BA/CX/JQ/KA/MH/MI/MU/
QF/QR-SIN-GA-JKT-GA-AMQ/BDJ/BIK/BPN/BTH/BTJ/DJB/JOG/KDI/
MDC/MES/MLG/PDG/PGK/PKU/PKY/PLM/PLW/PNK/SOC/SRG/TIM/TKG/
TRK/UPG-GA-JKT-PR-BKK/HKG/SIN-3K/BA/CX/JQ/MH/QF-SYD
33. OSL-LON-SYD
.
The last time I inspected this routing table it had well over 200 entries and at a guess several hundred thousand possible routes. I actually spent an eleven hour flight writing a bash script to find the most TP-optimal route from the table. Anyway, it has been cut down a lot.
Originally Posted by
lorkers
Category 16: Penalties
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE NOK 3000 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
So if you get really really stuck, just change your flight - it's 'only' 250 quid, but is a lifesaver if you hit real problems on the outbound ex LHR.
That is the change fee.
You would also need to pay the fare difference. BA closes the I/R buckets down a few days before longhaul flights so you would have to pay 3000 NOK + the cost to upgrade to a C/D/J/A/F fare. If you wished to change your origin the entire ticket would need to be repriced appropriately.
Originally Posted by
Globaliser
Sorry, I think that there's a lot of misunderstanding in this.
Indeed.
Originally Posted by
nufnuf77
I remember Calchas was telling me about this crazy routing that was possible on one of the discount I fares between OSL and SYD with some back-tracking between SIN and HKG, but cannot remember the details or whether it is still available.
Yes you could do OSL-LHR-SIN-SYD-PER-BNE, so 140 TPs on every leg except 160 on LHR-SIN, and 40 on OSL-LHR. That was closed down though.