Originally Posted by
Air Traffic Controller
Perhaps your considerations are rubbish... I already reported that some studies are in progress at Eurocontrol and within some SESAR workpackages, and they are reworking the queue models, introducing the AMAN, TTA and similar concepts.
Reading your comments I suppose you are an experienced ATCO, but also in this case I would suggest you a visit in Brussels (EC or SESAR HQs), and my colleagues will be happy to show you what will be the ATC of the future.
All I'll admit is that I dabble in Aviation Safety and Safety Risk Management. AMAN, for far as I can tell, is a tool they're using to manage runway utilization. So I don't see how that applies to queuing up planes based on financial value. NATS will find themselves in hot-water the first time they opt to land one plane over another using this model. I can see the delayed airlines filing suits against NATS to recoup the cost of the additional fuel burn. It doesn't sound like a concept that balance financial health and safety. Maybe there's one of those brainy economists out there who can build a model to prove this out. I await such data to prove me wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
Originally Posted by
Nimrod1965
Its hard enough dealing with the complexities of the London TMA in normal conditions but throw in weather or other factors and any ATCO being told to "make the Birdseed from New York priority to land" will probably be met with a stiff response.
This has me laughing because that's what I was thinking. Just from an operational point of view, how do you implement queue jumping and maintain safety? How do you pull them out of the stack and into their new place when you have traffic in the above, below, and adjacent airspace?
Originally Posted by
im.daniel
Looks like Ryanair are effed ... :P
So Ryanair probably isn't seeing too much traffic into LHR. So this isn't a real problem, but it make the point because if they did, they would have to factor in delays to every arrival. Since NATS would likely be footing the bill for development, how much money do they save with this? Wearing my Capital Investment Program analyst cap, I don't see where this returns any value. There's definitely no value to be attributed to safety benefit. There's no way I could sell this to our capital budget managers.