Originally Posted by
Perche
It is required in the US to show an ID if the police stop you because they think you have done something wrong, or else you'll likely be taking a trip to the police station until you can verify that you are who you say you are.
This is false. There is not other way to state it- completely false.
Some states require one to provide police a real name when asked but ID is not required. If one is operating a motorised vehicle then a license is required-most have pictures. Some valid issues card ones do not, especially for military personal in other states and some students.
Not sure where you think you heard it or are watching too much TV but again one is NOT required to carry ID in the United States if a citizen.
If you think otherwise please PM me I would love to see the USC that states it is law. I cannot find it through any lex-nex check or other sources.
Hotel and air-port check-in require have an ID unless you want to go through, "special" procedures, and an ID is required by many stores if you want to use your credit card in some stores. It's the same in Italy.
Sometimes....I have checked into eight hotels in the last five weeks, one in D.C., One in Texas, four in Germany, and one in Italy. Only in DC and Italia was an ID required and in Italia an ID normally required at the hotel for police registration. Airport check-in only requires ID if you are checking bags or your airline does not have online check-in or airport kiosks. Even TSA does not officially require ID, they can do their security theatre verifications through other means which can delay people.
They want to see a passport for you to get on a plane, if you want a VAT refund, etc. A passport is more unwieldy than a Carta d'identita, and so the latter is often more convenient except at the airport.
Passports are required for non E.U. travel and often a form of ID is needed for Schengen airlines but not always. Three of my last five Schengen flights in December did NOT check ID ever.Not sure what your point is here though a Carta d'identita is useful for travel throughout the EU (not just Schengen) I will give you that one. It is, of course, easier for a foreign national with a passport unless they have a permesso.
don't know what rumors you are referring to.
Reread the postings then....
Gun laws in Italy are much stricter than here.
If by here you mean the United States of America (since I am not there my presumption is you mean that-my apologies if you do not). In certain parts of the US gun laws are unfortunately just as "strict" as Italia though the courts are challenging them. I have just as many guns here in my Italian homes as I do at my homes in the US. It really is not that difficult. In fact my gun ID is valid for many of the same transactions as my carta but I digress. This discourse is of no help to the OP.
OP says he has difficulty checking in with a gun in the USA, and has to carry a copy of the relevant regulations with him to show gate agents because they are not familiar with the law.
He was talking about TSA and gate agents for US domestic flights. I fly with a gun in the US very, very often and it is totally allowed and kosher but it requires a special tag and inspection in checked bags by TSA. Many new airlines agents are not familiar with the process so he carries the regs with him. Other gun owners do as well. This is irreverent to the Italian questions but I see where it could be confusing.
[quote ] On his behalf I called the Italian local police, federal police, and the gun club holding the tournament. None of them had any idea how to bring a gun into Italy.[/quote]
Yet scores of guns a day are legally flown into Italia from overseas for just such purposes. As an aside, I do it all the time into FCO, MXP, CCTA, NAP and PMO. Yes, finding the correct staff at odd hours can be an issue as in all things here in Italia timing is important but it is not that difficult.
Also with all things in Italia I could call the same numbers and possible get a different person with a different answer, the key is getting the proper forms for import at the airport. Local notification comes after. It is a two part process. I did find some interactions humourous when I brought a gun Fatto in Italia, into Italia for the first time and having to put that as the country of manufacture for one of my Berettas. Dogana got a good laugh out of it LOL.
The lady at the consulate in LA may have told him it was a piece of cake, but I'm not sure if a local official in a small Umbrian is going to be any more up to date about application of EU and Italian firearm laws to foreigners than a gate agent at LAX is about how US laws apply to its own citizens.
No one is saying otherwise though if said small town in Umbria is used to hosting gun tournaments then someone is the go to person for it, I guarantee it. All the others in Italia I have seen have the go-to-guy. Finding that person can, of course, be a challenge.
As I said to OP, I think it's doable, but dealing with the italian bureaucracy, especially for something they don't see all the time, is rarely easy.
Yes, it is certainly doable and legal. I agree with this 110% poster about time though. You need to start planning early. Check-in early and try to arrive a day or two before the tournament at least
OP, I can PM you some shooting webforums that have some good info on such things and advice from people who travel for such things often. They normally have some good POCs. Just let me know.