<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by GUWonder:
Try getting on a flight without your "papers" called the national ID card (in the guise of State ID or some Federal Govt.-issued ID).</font>
Thats an ID card, NOT a permission slip to travel and it is not a REQUIREMENT as not having one automatically makes you a selectee for intense screening. I suggest you contact your airline of choice as that is their call to make. Of course you knew what I meant but just HAD to try and make a point or two. So show me ONE freedom or civil liberty that has been denied us as a society as a result of 9-11. I cannot find a single one even though I am bombarded here daily with tales of terrible things happening now and things that are coming.
The bottom line to all these diatribes is that some feel that security is too intrusive and not effective, in their opinion. These same people will be the first to decry that the opposite is true if it were scaled back and another terrorist incident was to take place. They say there are too many screeners one day, then the lines get longer and there are not enough screeners.
These are individuals who have allowed their common sense, if they have any, to become clouded by their personal animosity to a program that they disagree with. It is the rantings of these people with their name calling and personal attacks on the screeners themselves that shows them to be self-centered people with a desire for change simply to suit their wishes, not for the overall good of everyone. Look at the title of this thread....HUMILIATED passengers.
I have learned a lot about the legalities of the screening methods in the last few weeks. Enough to know that most of the arguments against it are baseless. The 4th amendment argument over baggage screening has been debunked. The argument over screening in general has been debunked. Evidently there were several lawsuits in the early 70's that attempted to have it discontinued, but they were unsuccessful. Anyone want to try again today with a fresher argument?
I guess I am saying here that regardless of how anyone FEELS about the screening process, I have yet to find a single right or civil liberty that has been denied us as a society. Anyone think they know of one? Don't hit me with time wasted as that is an intangible without defined parameters.
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