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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 10:28 am
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theddo
 
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Originally Posted by Spiff
It's a fact. Number of all people ever arrested for explosives @ airport vs. ETD alarms? Practically zero vs. daily occurrence.

Submit to sexual assault or not fly: that's coercion. She was not even free to leave without further administrative harassment.

When the alternative is sexual assault, the victim should not only be free to leave, no questions asked, the perps should be arrested on the spot.
As you very well know the TSA doesn't operate on a "almost no bombs is good enough" management model.

You think it is sexual assault, I think her initial report was full of hyperboles and she was free to leave - but do you really think the TSA would say "well, your ETD went off and you left the screening area so we're letting it go"? Probably not.

Originally Posted by petaluma1
Actually, the OP first said:

And no, she never said it was the same as a cavity search. Her exact words:

If one has to have one's sexual organs touched in order to board a plane, that is coercion. End of story.
No. It can be, under certain circumstances.

Originally Posted by petaluma1
Why should a Trusted Traveler be treated in a manner from a first-time flyer when the ETD alarms? Both alarms should be resolved in the same manner but that manner is not a private room humiliating and degrading grope.
Don't want to follow screening procedures set forth by the TSA? Maybe you shouldn't be a TSA trusted traveler.

Originally Posted by FredAnderssen
Man with a gun: "Your money or your life. Your choice."

I don't. Why do you think that's fair? Are you saying that her choice comes with consequences? Then what kind of choice was that?

TSA agent: "Submit to a private search or pay $11,000. Your choice."

Do you think that's a fair choice and doesn't amount to coercion?
Again with the hyperbole. OP isn't Rosa Parks, the metal detector went off and the ETD was positive and she left the screening area because she didn't want to be patted down - which she wasn't and she was let go. Wherein lies the coercion?

If she felt coerced why did she feel perfectly safe in refusing and leaving? Maybe because she knew it was a choice?

Also she wasn't fined $11,000. As per the rules I'm sure she signed that is the maximum administrative penalty the TSA can give someone in a TT program.
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