Originally Posted by
ou81two
Not being held accountable? You know this whole thread is about two TSA agents being indicted on some serious charges, right? Also, feel free to let me know of another job where you get fired for putting a penny from the floor in your pocket.
Citation, please? Anything at all? I've certainly never heard of a TSO being fired for putting a penny from the floor into his pocket. Again, I call BS hyperbole.
Originally Posted by
ou81two
There's no straw man there. Nobody? I've seen people in threads on this page suggesting that the TSA be done away with completely. Call them out on what they should do and you get crickets. The Supreme Court, put in place by that document you pretend to love so much has no problem with any of this.
Again I call BS. First, as petaluma1 so eloquently put it, doing away with TSA is NOT the same as doing away with all security. You have a selective focus - those who advocate doing away with TSA always conclude that call by saying something like "and returning to pre-9/11 security" or "and return security to the airlines" or "and let the individual airports or local governments handle security." Nobody in their right mind wants a completely unsecured aviation system. Nobody in their right mind even wanted that prior to 9/11.
Also BS is your crickets claim. There are pages, and pages, and more pages, of detailed discussion on EXACTLY, PRECISELY what sort of security we want. It's been discussed, re-discussed, and re-re-re-discussed over and over again in this forum. Those threads may not be on Page 1 any more, though, so I suggest you learn how to use the search function.
More BS is your claim that the SCOTUS doesn't have any problem "with this." With what, exactly? No lawsuit dealing specifically with NoS, suspicionless full-body pat-downs, liquids restrictions, the shoe carnival, the name game, or the smell of BDO have ever been heard by the SCOTUS. Most of them have been tied up in the Circuit courts, and many have been refused, not on their own merits, but because the Circuits feel that they don't have jurisdiction for some odd legal reason.
However, lawsuits are currently under way in lower courts challenging the processes used for the no-fly list, and are making substantial headway. Perhaps one day the stain of this un-Constitutional violation of due process and multiple other rights will finally be wiped clean from the American soul.
Originally Posted by
ou81two
Ever wonder why FT buried this forum so deep in the website? Think about that.
Um... the TS&S board is at the SECOND LEVEL of the boards. It's ONE extra click to get here from the tippy-top level, just like the destination boards, the credit card program boards, and the individual airline boards. Think about that.