Originally Posted by
ou81two
We've had people in our military who have been prosecuted for rape and killing civilians. That that mean that people sitting comfortably home in their nice safe houses should think that all of those men and women who put their lives on the line so we can be free should be branded that way? No, it doesn't.
That depends on the organization's response.
If a lot of soldiers do bad things, break the law, and abuse the trust that's placed in them, but are held accountable for their actions by the military, then we have a trustworthy and accountable military, and the actions of the criminals don't reflect on the organization as a whole.
If such bad actions are covered up, rationalized, explained away, ignored, or condoned by the organization, then those actions DO reflect on the organization as a whole. Which sounds a lot like TSA, doesn't it?
Originally Posted by
ou81two
Take away all airplane security and restrictions and see what happens. You'd have any terrorist wannabe shooing a 22 though the hull of a plane and depressurizing it at 40k feet.
Sorry man, I fly. I'll take the security and call BS on your statement.
Nice straw man argument! It warrants a Golf Clap:
But check yourself before you wreck yourself - who in this thread, or even in this board, is seriously suggesting taking away ALL security and restrictions? Nobody.
No.
Body.
What we want is practical, sensible, non-invasive security that doesn't violate the Constitution, applies equally to all people with access to the aircraft, and is based on actual, practical threat vectors, not those imagined by movies and novels and paranoid hyperbolics.
By the way - firing a .22 through an aircraft's hull while it's pressurized in flight will make a hole approximately 0.22" in diameter - about the size of a think pencil - which will not depressurize the cabin to any appreciable amount, and it certainly won't take down the entire aircraft. Except in movies. Which are fantasy. So, I'll call BS on your irrational fear, and I'll take my Constitutional rights and freedoms that were paid for with the lives of tens of thousands of American soldiers over the last 200-odd years.