To those thinking about ordering AGC for ms purposes, let me just say that this game is not the same anymore. Not only will you experience the torture of Amex order denials for no good reason, terrible outsourced customer service which can't understand you and only gives you prepared excuses in your language, but you'll experience the ever increasing limitations of ways to liquidate what you do receive in Amex cards. For many, wally is dead now to many gc not just vanillas as many are experiencing now. Anyone who promotes this method of msing to newbies is doing them an injustice unless they know exactly where that person lives and knows for certain there are less obsticles in that area. I'm not recommending this method of ms'ing to any friend now, that's for sure. Many can't even make bb/serve loads at wally with vanilla, sunrise and other visas. Sure, you'll hear of some successes, but for the most part it's over for many and they are moving on to other less time consuming avenues even if it means less % payout. Just a friendly word of caution from someone who's been at this a while, but has been beating their head against a wall the last couple weeks due to so much time wasted in trying to liquidate. I also know of some having trouble because they've tried depositing too many MOs in short time because they can't load bb/serve enough. Be careful and don't get greedy.