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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by DHAST
I hate to say this, but there's so many properties in NYC and you've given us very little to go on. You're asking if the W NY TS is a decent deal on C&P but then say that the "point value" at the Aloft Harlem is "low." This suggests you have some idea of what your points are worth, but then you have to ask (without telling us what the cash rates are) if the W NY TS is a decent deal?

The W NY TS is a decent deal on C&P if the cash rate for the night is over $430, and great value at over $480. Also keep in mind that SPG gives you a 5th night free on points.

If you've never been to NYC, keep in mind that the Aloft Harlem is at roughly 125th st, north of Central Park. The south end of Central Park (where the tourist sites are) is at about 60th. Some things are worth the schlep, but advice I've been given up thread suggests that for a first timer, the Aloft Harlem isn't. (Not when there are other category 5 options south of Central Park.)

Few SPG members find Category 6 & 7 properties to be a good value on straight points. For me to redeem at a Category 6 property on straight points, the off season rate needs to be more expensive than $600/night (giving me a value of 3 cpp) or $750 during peak season. It's rare to find those valuations.

So I guess what you're asking is whether or not you should stay at the W NY TS for 10,000 points + $180, or find a Category 5 hotel at 12,000 points. I've stayed at the W NY TS, and it's a fine property and all, but you've got to decide (if you're going for five nights) if you want to part with 50,000 points + $1000 (you'll have to pay taxes on the cash portion, so I'm estimating here) or a straight 48,000 points.

When you look at it like that, you're saving both points (although 2,000 is negligible) but also $1k in cash. I'd have a hard time forking over both more points and more cash. But that's just me.

You say you don't mind taking the subway, but keep in mind the costs in both money and time. Also realize that the further out you're staying from the city center, the more likely it is that you will only use the hotel for sleeping and not return to it during the day. It's one thing to take subway for 10 minutes to get to a tourist site, but when you're closer to 30 minutes away, it starts really cutting into your day.

I realize I've rambled a bit, but your post basically says, "I want to go to NYC on SPG points, where do I stay?" The answer is way too open ended.
As a resident, there are plenty of "tourist" sites to see in Harlem alone, not to mention the upper westside.

I do agree that you may want to provide more information as to what you may want to do so we can give you choices that may not require so much transit time.
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