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Old Jul 1, 2014, 7:31 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81
Originally Posted by geohiller

Citi Aadvantage Executive Mastercard Chip and Signature Usage
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Hi all,

Just back from Italy and France. As expected, always came as Chip and Signature, and couldn't be used in the toll booths in France (was usable in Italian Autostrada though).

Interesting experience in the Milan metro - put card in, was asked for PIN, gave the Cash Advance pin and it worked (but transactions less than 10 Euro)

George
Must be more a matter of some kiosks accepting foreign cards and others not, rather than the EMV configuration?
Why do you say that? It's well established in this thread that France uses chip + "offline" PIN (and that that's the only kind of EMV that works in most French unmanned kiosks), while most US EMV cards can only do "online" PIN (that's what it's doing if you simply use your cash advance PIN).

Italy doesn't have the "offline" PIN requirement that France does. So that's why the chip + signature (prioirity) card worked at Milan metro with cash advance PIN, because the card tried chip + "online" PIN and that worked.

So while there can be issues of some kiosks not accepting foreign cards (especially in Denmark, for example), I don't see anything that geohiller described about France and Italy that fits that scenario.

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