I remember a 5-2-2 vote, which in those days was exactly the same as a 5-4 vote (as 6 yes votes were needed for a motion to pass, the two abstentions had the same effects as no votes).

When I was first elected to TalkBoard, there was a requirement that two members had to live outside of North America. This was to encourage diversity but I felt it was very undemocratic. Theoretically, if there were no foreign members on TalkBoard, and there was an election for four open seats, if there were 20 candidates and the top 18 were all North Americans, only two of them would be elected and the two foreign residents, who came in 19th and 20th in the race, would also be elected.

I made a motion to abolish this requirement. Five members voted in favor, 2 voted against, and 2 abstained. The motion was defeated.

However, as TB motions are only recommendations, and Randy agreed with me, he abolished the rule despite the defeat.