Just by way of example, I was looking specifically at YYZ-MCO and YYZ-PHX, two BUSINESS routes for me. I'm willing to change alliances, even to connect on a reasonable total travel time, but I am not interested in WS or connecting in ORD. I am not choosing rouge. I am reluctantly tolerating it while I try to find an alternative. If I can get one of those 12 seats in J, it's almost as good as row 12 on the mainline.

To tireman and those that are peeved about "misery loves company", I'm sorry, but part of "self-help" is being able to share how you feel, even if that is miserable, and to validate and be validated that those feelings are shared by others. If that makes it repetitious, well, it is because so many people share those feelings. This forum is in some ways a self-help community. I am sure glad you guys are not on my breast cancer forum. We complain there too and I wouldn't want you to find it tedious and repetitive.

It does NOT help to be asked to consider that AC is making out like bandits on this deal. I can even concede that it may be the case, but it doesn't change how I feel. What IS repetitive is the rejoinder to every complaint "yes it's bad service but look how good it is for profits". This isn't AC's self-help forum. It's ours.