Originally Posted by
stimpy
Have you never sat in EK F? I've done the middle seat there and the divider works quite well. You do not at all feel like you are in the space of your neighbor, even when the door to the aisle is closed. I think you are letting your imagination run away with you.
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Nonsense. Your daughter could be sat next to anyone in any class on any airline and be exposed to a rude neighbor. The crew will surely deal with it no matter where she is sat. And again, the divider works quite well here.
Sorry but what makes absolutely no sense to me here is your comparing this to EK F. As you have done the EK F middle seat, you know perfectly well that the wall between the two centre seats is much higher and that even more importantly the doors do not go the height of the full cabin, meaning that the centre island is not fully secluded from the rest of the plane. Finally, this is all the more true that on EK you have multiple rows and thus further spaced behind and/or in front of each centre pair, unlike AF where it will be only one row and thus a separation both the height and the length of the entire cabin.
For those not famliar with the EK seat, here is a picture and I think that anyone will be able to see the difference very easily in terms of privacy between the two middle seats as well as aisle doors height:
http://boardingarea.wpengine.netdna-...2/IMG_7222.jpg
That, again, is the point we keep making and you keep ignoring when you speak of 'nonsense'. When you are in an open cabin, while of course someone could always be subject to advances by a lunatic, that person would have to take the risk of doing so in full view of others. On many 'private' suites, the fixed wall between the two middle seats would be as high as between seat and aisle making it impossible or at the very least extremely hard for anyone to see or touch over between the two centre seats.
In the AF case, however, we have the worst of both worlds. The curtain drawn will give full privacy to the centre 'island'. In other words if the two centre seat pax choose to draw the curtains, it will be absolutely impossible for any cabin crew to see what happens behind the island in question, that's the whole point of those curtains and very easy to realise based on
olivedel's photos. At the same time, the wall between those two middle seats is very low compared to the likes of EK - in fact as low as the LX ones as can again be seen on
olivedel's photos, and he confirmed to us that it will be the same for the centre seats. So the examples that you provide have simply nothing to do with the AF situation which offers a unique combination of very low separation between the two centre seats (as in non-private seats a la LX) but extreme privacy from the aisles (even more than on EK and the likes as on AF it goes all the plane height!). This is what
AshleyB has described as "the tent" effect and I still find it highly problematic based on our reporter's confirmations and photographs.