Originally Posted by
Yahillwe
Actually in Paris they have bike lanes even bike traffic lights. One can't bike on the side walk, but tell that to the motorcyclist or bikers.
The accidents that I have seen are just mind boggling.

In Sydney there are many bike lanes and traffic lights, but also some footpaths that are clearly marked that can be shared by bikes - of course, this means that the cyclists believe that they can ride their bikes on every footpath and often become aggressive when pedestrians don't leap out of their way. I won't budge for them.
Originally Posted by
Alsacienne
Why all the need for discussion? If you broke the law (even if you didn't intend to), pay the penalty and move on. Surely that's what any responsible adult would do? Or am I missing the point here?
+1
Same for traffic fines, there's a very long thread somewhere about not paying speeding fines in Australia that flares up from time to time and becomes very heated.