Funny how if someone wants the cabin darker in order to sleep they are "entitled." Yet, those that want to gaze out at clouds for 14hrs are not "entitled."

And, for example, how does it not make sense that on a flight that departs at 430PM EST on a 14hr journey.... so arriving at ~630AM EST ... that passengers might want to try and sleep during that time? Maybe for 6-8hrs just like most try to do every other night. What a concept! Fact is, most do want to sleep. Not all, but most. That's why the FAs cater to darkened cabin crowd and lower the shades - majority rules.

And, I think Badenoch makes a valid point that they are traveling for work and they hope to be rested. They do not have the opportunity to sleep in their hotel for 2 days upon arrival to catch up on zzzzz's. Some leisure tourists might. Call that entitled if you want but I just call it being courteous to allow them & the majority to sleep. And, you do not have to sleep, do what you want. Just don't let your supposed God-given right to an open shade ruin it for the majority who simply want to rest.

And, the argument that the FAs are being lazy by trying to make everyone sleep so they can sit and do nothing is utter baloney and plain rude. They work hard and are there to help you and bring you a meal and drinks. But, they aren't your mom and do not have to be at your beck and call the entire flight. If you are so worried about not getting food or a drink the instant you want one, then sit in J and walk back to the open bar area full of snacks or bring your own food/drink on board.