Outside of Carlson Wagon Lit which manages FF programs for NW and KL, can you identify which others are operated by independent companies. Mileage Plus and AAdvantage are all integral operations of those airlines, not separate companies as Aeroplan has now been established. That BankOne gave UA money, is for the reasons you noted, to assist in its reorganization under Chapter 11. But Mileage Plus was covered under that filing, whereas Aeroplan and Destina are not.