Please let me know where I can find a Y seat on par with this. I hate to post this in fear of being labelled an apologist but I don't think you will find a base Y product that will exceed their new PE. While the service may not be up to Y on some airlines the seat far exceeds it and even the food should be a step above most other airlines in Y. Since I don't drink I could care less about the wine which is one weakness that some have noted.