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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 11:34 pm
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Originally Posted by APFPilot1985
Those are both examples of perfect reasons to alert the cockpit on a takeoff roll. With the heart attack there was no way they would have known in the cockpit and depending on how open the door was it might not have set off an indicator. A couple of studies on have been done on CRM and FA reluctance to break sterile cockpit. They've found a couple of things. One of the main points is that more training needs to be provided to FAs on the mechanical aspects of the aircraft. Obviously they don't need to know the systems of the aircraft to the extent to that the pilot does, but some education on what is safe/unsafe and what specific items are worth calling the cockpit on regardless of the phase of flight is something that should be covered. Engine falls off, alert the cockpit. Cosmetic panel falls off, wait until 10K and notify them. This would also eliminate the other major issue which is reluctance to notify the cockpit during sterile cockpit for anything. A few years ago an ATR-72 flight attendant noticed a leaking sound that wasn't normal from a door and a few minutes later it separated from the aircraft, she was reluctant to notify the cockpit because they were only at 600ft after takeoff. Obviously this should have been reported.
You are 100% correct. You should have seen things before sterile cockpit and CRM.

When I went to the cockpit after the door opening, the Captain asked if we lost any luggage. He then explained that the DC10 had an inherent flaw in it's doors. Yes, they could open, but they would not get a warning until the door went to 3 feet. WHAT!? It wasn't taught in training on the a/c because it happened so rarely. We had a good laugh at dinner as the guys were telling everyone how big my eyes were when I came into the cockpit.

I didn't hear about the door coming off. Anyone hurt?
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