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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 4:19 pm
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pete4212
 
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Originally Posted by KVS
Out of the two...
Your exclusionary posts are getting old KVS. AwardNexus has also been mentioned in this thread. Ignoring another screen scraping service won't make it go away.

Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I don't know about Award Nexus, but when EF shows availability in the right code, it's supposed to be inventory that is available to SkyTeam partners, not just for FB miles.

If Award Nexus, KVS, etc. are getting their award availability data directly from the AF website, that presumably includes all seats available for FB miles, some or all of which might not be available using DL or other partner miles. (There might be additional AF award inventory available only to FB elites when they are logged into their FF accounts, for example IFC award seats.) My understanding is that when you see 9 (low) award seats in the correct inventory class for AF flights on EF, they should be seats that AF is willing to make available for partners. Of course, there could still be a question whether DL is willing to let you use (low necessarily) miles to get those award tickets.

This phenomena became known as *Net blocking when UA was doing this: not allowing UA customers to use UA miles for partner flights that their partners were willing to make available to UA and other *A FF programs. I'm not aware that DL has ever been credibly accused of doing this. IMO the evidence is that they did not do this for SQ award tickets, even at the very end of that bilateral partnership.
That's my understanding as well. Screen scraping from AF.com will show awards that SkyMiles members don't have access to, and the DL website can't be trusted to show what SM members should have access to. This is what makes EF interesting for for AF award searching. This has been discussed in other threads like http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ve-thread.html

Originally Posted by whereishome?
Fast question - I currently use Expert Flyer to find international award tix and most of my mileage is Delta. Meaning, I look for AF on EFlyer; then look for Delta awards (segment at a time) on Delta.com. Is KVS going to serve my needs better ??
Depends as all KVS does is take the award results directly from the DL and AF websites. AwardNexus does the same but it has a free version and is web based. So if you don't want to pay for a few searches or download an app, it may not. Also to consider is that ExpertFlyer has DL upgrade inventory, which no other service has.
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