Well, the point was that for all we talk about flying being so great, and how nothing has changed since the 80s... in fact there are an awful lot of concessions passengers and in fact the public in general make towards flying that we simply don't put up with anywhere else. We would never get away with that level of limited movement, those limitations on handicapped access, and operational concessions anywhere else. So to say that train travel is the same product as flying is a bit false, just as comparing flying in the early days after deregulation, or even the period during regulation, to flying nowadays, is not really a fair comparison.