Originally Posted by thomwithanh

Not entirely true. The domestic connecting flights to/from the Envoy segment should be upgraded to F if space is available. There's a very good chance space won't be available (especially for transcons and hub-hub flights) and apparently some agents don't even know how to do it...

If we end up adopting AA's eVIPs - those can be used on any flight. On domestic, they actually rebook you into a revenue F bucket when you upgrade with an eVIP (vs. EXP unlimited upgrades), meaning you get the miles and points as if you paid for F... as well as a very good chance of keeping your upgrade in the event of IRROPS.