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Old May 3, 2013 | 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by FlightNurse
Z fare Heavily discounted Business Class - CANNOT (officially) be upgraded using either miles or SWU's or Sales Dept upgrade certificates. I beleive the Z fare is a YUP fare.
At least on international tickets, Z is a paid business class ticket. Business cabin internationally and first class cabin on domestic connections.

Originally Posted by PcolaPaul
So does YUP mean instant upgrade?
Essentially, but I believe--however am not certain--that there has to be upgrade space available for the YUP to clear immediately into F. I say this because I was waitlisted for a first class seat last year on one leg of a YUP fare when there were still F seats for sale.

Originally Posted by kenn0223
P is a first class fare and Z is business class. They are priced independently of each other. Sometimes UA sells both first and business class fares that book into the first cabin domestically. These often exist to allow/encourage construction within an international itinerary.
Not any more. P became a business class fare similar to Z about six months ago.


Originally Posted by RichardInSF
For international business class, the biggest difference between C/J/D and Z/P is that the latter is non-discountable to people holding corporate contracts. So if you are paying retail, you'll always (except maybe on a RTW or Circle Pacific fare) buy Z or P, as it is the "real" fare -- C/J/D are invariably discounted up to 60% for those with corporate contracts.
The largest discount I have seen is 40%. I assume 60% is pretty rare?
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