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i dont recall where
NYBanker described how FS handles minimum stays - arriving before "start date" for XMAS/NYE @ hualalai, in order to avoid any minimum stay requirement.
Nov 7 2011 >
Originally Posted by
bigmerv
i have never understood the rates at [FS palm beach], which seems to operate a very dramatic dynamic pricing policy. If you do a search for a room, literally one day difference either way can make a big difference in price for the entire stay.
Just as an example, take a 14 night stay in a partial ocean-view room:
arrival on 15 Feb gives a rate of $779,
16 Feb = $699,
18 Feb is back to $779,
19 Feb drops to $599
24 Feb is even lower at $499
28 Feb back to $599.
These prices apply to every night of the stay, so arriving on 19 Feb rather than 18 Feb would save $2520 for essentially the same stay in the same room. When it comes to suites, the price differential is even larger (as much as $1500 savings per night for some dates).
Anyone have any idea what is going on here? The prices are not blended rates, and I doubt it can be supply and demand as the price on the arrival date applies to every night of the whole stay.
I have never noticed this at any other hotel, most of which have clear peak, off-peak and shoulder seasons, (and specials of course). Maybe it exists but the differences are more subtle?
Originally Posted by
nba1017
I can't understand why it would affect the whole stay, and not just fluctuate on a daily basis.
May 9 2012 >
Originally Posted by
peter11
FS Santa Barbara...The third night free package works out to a really great rate if you can do weeknights. Actually, was looking at a sunday thru Saturday booking (six nights with two free nights) and still got mid-week pricing (June 10-June 16)
Dlx: $337, regularly $505 weekdays, $675 Weekends
Premier: $390, regularly $585 weekdays, $775 Weekends
Dlx 1BR Suite: $737, regularly $1105 weekdays, $1295 Weekends
San Miguel 1 Br. Suite: $1137, regularly $1705 weekdays, $1895 Weekends
Those third night free rates work out to roughly a 50% discount off the weekend rates for the "rooms" (less discount for the upper tier suites).
The rates quoted above for "third night free" are the average rate for all three nights. The "weekday" and "weekend" end rates are valid for a single night though they may have a minimum stay on summer weekends.
Jun 2 2012 >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-games-fs.html
jan/feb then (vs) apr 2013 >
Originally Posted by
Kagehitokiri
Originally Posted by
Kagehitokiri
FS punta mita >
2nd nt free (only garden ocean oceanfront suites?)
(3 paid nt min) (jan 22 - mar 1 and apr 1 - apr 30)
idea of base rates >
$485 may jun sep
$600 apr aug
$605 oct nov dec
$645 jul
$655 jan feb
$745 mar
? presidents day and easter
$1175 xmas/nye (8 nt min shown, used to say 10 nt min)
luxury's post in another thread sounds like they extended 2nd nt free to rooms and low season, but no beachfront...
ah must be unpublished FSPP offer
Originally Posted by
luxury
From May 19 to October 31, 2013 every second night is complimentary. Includes Preferred Partner amenities. Full non-refundable pre-payment required at booking.
Exclusions are beachfront units
fully nonrefundable in low season..
and they increased rates
may jun sep 485 > 700
aug 600 > 700
jul 645 > 700
oct 605 > 745
unfortunate if they are playing those kinds of marketing games
normal, wow >
A three-night deposit on accommodation, plus 16% VAT, 3% occupancy tax and 10% Resort service fee, will be charged as a guarantee and will be posted to the first and last two nights of the stay. If the stay is three nights or fewer, full payment, plus tax and service charges, is required at time of booking. Cancellations of room reservations must be received at least 30 days (60 days for villas and select suites) prior to expected arrival date or the full deposit will be forfeited. The same policy applies to no-shows, unexpected departures, stays shortened prior to arrival or change of dates within the 30-day cancellation period.
site >
http://skift.com/2013/12/19/skift-qa...ds-to-learn/#1
http://www.luxurydaily.com/four-seas...itter-hashtag/
http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/19...her-norton-qa/
http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/Article/9442
some related -
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...sons-vibe.html
this was linked above >
http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/articles...-moves-forward
looking at it again, has a bunch on marketing, site, social media, etc
http://www.hugeinc.com/case-study/four-seasons
fourseasons.com/content/dam/fourseasons/web/pdfs/landing_page_pdfs/2012_TRD_Report_final.pdf