Originally Posted by
Weez_1000
I saw it (not the edited version) and im blown away it was rated PG-13, there were definitely sexually explicit scenes and the violence was pretty severe. I have no idea what the airline version was but in its regular form its not suitable for young kids.
From the description on IMDB the sex doesn't go past the limits of PG-13.
Originally Posted by
exbayern
I'm truly amazed at how many people (here and on other websites) feel that they have the right to censor what I choose to watch on my personal viewing device.
When it's truly personal nobody has a right to censor it.
The problem comes when it's in a position that's readily visible to others who don't agree with watching it.
Even the definition of 'porn' varies so widely; to many people apparently a bare breast, or a bare front side, equates to 'porn'. I don't even consider viewing consensual sex on television or in films as 'porn'; there has to be a broader element than just 'sex' to be considered 'porn'.
To me porn is full nudity + sex acts as the focus of the movie. If the latter are (or could be) simulated it's softcore, if there's no doubt they're real it's hardcore.
Originally Posted by
exbayern
Watching a film with brief views of sex (which is not really considered an issue on mainstream television in much of the world) on my personal viewing device won't harm your children. If you are worried about harming your children, then teach them some manners. Looking and watching other people's personal viewing devices is not appropriate behaviour.
You are responsible for your children, not other people. Watching something containing sex or nudity on a personal viewing device is not asocial behaviour. I could be convinced that watching a true definition of some porn and not shielding it could be considered asocial, but I refuse to turn off a program shown on the BBC or any other mainstream television channel in Europe because your children have bad manners.
By the way, there is a thread on TravelBuzz about personal viewing devices and 'porn' for those of you who feel so strongly about protecting your children from the world around them.
Edited to add: I looked up the comparative ratings on a film which adults found offensive on my past train journey.
It's rated R in America, age 6+ in Germany, valid for all audiences in France and Québec.
That's just one example of how perceptions and beliefs vary. In Germany and in France the one scene of sex (which showed just her backside, if I recall) was considered suitable for almost all ages. In America, not suitable for below age 18 unless accompanied by an adult.
I do agree we are nuts about nudity in this country.
If I had children I wouldn't try to shield them from nudity, period. Full frontal nudity is G rated in my book.
That doesn't mean everything that's R-rated for sex is suitable for everyone, especially those who are not used to seeing it.
Originally Posted by
FlyingNut724
Would it be socially acceptable to sit in a seat next to a child and read Playboy magazine?
If your answer is yes, what percentage of the American population (where UA is based and regulated) do you think would agree with you?
If your answer is no, how is watching it on a personal device any different than reading the magazine?
If it were my child I would have no objections. I realize I'm in the minority here, though. There are things in there that probably wouldn't be the best for younger kids but they're buried in the text, a kid young enough for it to be inappropriate isn't going to be reading enough for it to be an issue.
Originally Posted by
exbayern
I haven't looked at an issue of American Playboy so honestly cannot tell you, but from what I understand it is very mild (if any) nudity.
US Playboy shows full frontal nudity but nothing sexual about it. The legs are never spread in a frontal shot.
Originally Posted by
FlyingNut724
I agree that different cultures have different norms. On a U.S. domestic flight, I would suspect that reading a playboy magazine next to a child would get you a lecture from the FAs and, if you didn't put it away, a chat with law enforcement upon landing.
Agreed, although I'm not at all sure about the conditional you put in the end.