Originally Posted by friedablass

Even my dad who does have some sense as to the value of points and will only redeem for airfare (he uses mostly MR points), does not understand that the best value is in redeeming for J or F seats - he sees it as a "waste" of additional points that he could have used for yet another coach seat. After a while I realized it was pointless to keep trying to convince him and that he is an old-timer that just doesn't want to get with the program so I gave up. At least he's not flushing them on some cruise at a fraction of their value!