There was one publicly reported incidence of a "force lift", and that occurred on the San Joaquin bus network over Thanksgiving. Because they were running extra sections on the LA-Bakersfield, Sacramento-Stockton, and a few of the other runs, rather than give the extra bus operators scanners Amtrak force lifted all bus tickets for that weekend, on the Thurway buses affected. Drivers were just asked to look at ticket stubs and not collect anything. Unfortunately, this reinforces the need to cancel unused tickets before departure, to avoid force lifting.