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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 7:53 am
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Originally Posted by MarkXS
To be real picky, the US DOT rule does allow the rules of the first marketing carrier, *ignoring any elite or credit card benefits* for the subsequent airlines.

So TG could be within their rights, even as a USA-flying carrier (even though not on your itin) that has to play nice with the USA, to give you only what UA would give a non-elite.

I believe that the IATA now has a database and the etickets now have a field where the carrier who determines the baggage rules and charges stores them, and all carriers in the "journey" (the term in the rules - not "ticket", not PNR, but I guess instantiated as "ticket") can access them.

To make it even more confusing, the USA DOT rule does allow the US-touching journeys to be charged based on the MSC Most Significant Carrier concept of IATA res 304, as long as the MSC is modified by the US regulation saying "use the marketing not the operating carrier if they differ", and "apply the outbound rules on every leg of the journey" - but made that optional. United and most USA airlines have chosen to ignore that option, because they can make more money using their own more expensive "originating carrier" fees.

The idea of the IATA MSC rule was great. The idea of the US DOT rule was great. The lack of coordination between them and the MSC-as-modified-is-optional of the DOT, has made this a total crapshoot every flight if any of the airlines have anything to do with the USA. Unintended consequences strike again.
This is a very informative post. Thank you.

I have always thought this whole change was supposed to simplify everyone's life but it seems to add more confusion.

The problem is not limited to US. My family recently had a dispute with AC in Canada when connecting to EVA. The AC agent insisted on charging for the 2nd bag as her computer did not show the 2nd piece was free on her screen.

When my sister said OK, charge me but print out the documentation, the agent printed the ETKT and it did show the 2nd piece was free. So, somehow the field is on one part of the system but not on the other.

I just did a US flight connecting to TPAC. The way I understood it with US for *G was that:

1 - 3 pieces
2 - no piece can be over 50 lbs unless you are in C/F

So, UA's 70 pound rule is definitely not widespread.
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