thanks for all the replies - and i hadn't realised there was a previous thread about this

yes it is likely too old, I did email them but still waiting for an answer (they seem really slow at the moment, this isn't the only reply i am waiting for from them)

i could try using it in dec - though we are at the notoriously stingy sydney ic so i wouldn't rate my chances! also my current one expires jan so thats leaving it a bit late for trading..