Originally Posted by
dm101
OK, I see that you have your opinions on this matter (which of course you're entitled to have).
Then again, and I don't know which generation you're part of, but the world is a bit different now a days. So what's your solution, as an example, for expats who have a new kid and their families back home are naturally very eager to meet their new family member? Should the expat family invite the whole family (and friends) over for a visit (here in HK that might be a problem because not everyone can afford a big house where all the family members could stay, so they would probably need to stay over in a hotel, and perhaps not everybody has the money to do so... etc.) So should this expat family instead wait a couple of years to travel back to their home country so that their families could meet with their new family member? Or should they perhaps instead try and rent a private jet?
I have three answers to that:
1. There have been ex pats forever and, somehow, everyone managed without subjecting strangers on planes to noisy impositions.
2. Do you really believe all those families with noisy kids are ex parts flying to see relatives?
3. Not my problem. I don't impose on others when I fly, and I expect them to not impose on me.
I've been on quite a few planes in China were nothing has been done about addressing drunk passengers.
I fly in China a lot and haven't seen all that many drunks. For that matter, I haven't seen all that many drunks on any airline anywhere. However, I was referring to the U.S., which has an FAA prohibition against boarding drunk passengers.
It's not like they have been violent or anything, just that they have been pretty "noise". Same goes with the talking to your friend on the "other row". Ever tried flying with, as an example, italiens?
When I fly in Italy, I assume I'm flying with a lot of Italians. I haven't noticed them being excessively noisy.
And no I'm not trying to stereotype the italiens, most of my dearest friends are from Italy, but you could ask almost any of them when it comes to this "talking to your friend thing", and they'll know what you mean. We're not all the same you know... (and regarding the guy who snores. So the FA should come by and "shake him" every 5 minutes? Or would it be better to not allow people who snore to travel on airplanes?)
Yes, the FA should come by and "shake him" whenever he becomes a significant nuisance. However, people who snore don't have control over it. Parents have control over whether they fly with their kids or not.
So I must have screaming kids, which I don't,
You don't have kids, or you don't have noisy kids?
to try and justify that it's just common sense to allow parents to fly with their children?
What has "allow" to do with any of this. I said it's inconsiderate. I didn't say there should be rules against. Remember, what started this was the so-called "cute" idea of giving candy to other pax because a couple was flying with babies. I didn't think it was cute or considerate. What is considerate is not flying with young children, particularly on long-hauls, if they're going to cause a disruption.
Well that sounds very logical to me. Perhaps it would be better if you started flying in private jets instead.
Why? I'm not the one imposing on strangers.
Or perhaps even better, not fly at all, or go one step further and don't leave your home. That way you don't need to interact with people who might disturbe you, especially screaming kids.
Here's the difference between an airplane and anywhere else: anywhere else, if you encounter an annoying nuisance, you can simply move away.
I'm pretty certain, that if there's a "noisy" kid traveling on a airplane, you're probably the one standing out not being able to "tolerate" the situation.
And I'm pretty certain that, if there are adults talking, you assume their Italian.
I've been on several airplanes throughout the years, where there has been "screaming" kids present. And you know what, most of the times, there has been none reaction what so ever from the other passengers, like rolling eyes, etc. (talking about infants, and when the parents try their best to handle the situation).
Oh, you've done a survey? You've asked people what they're thinking?
So I'm wondering who is best suited to fly with other passengers, you or the kids?
The problem isn't the kids, but their parents who bring them on board. As I said, I don't impose on anyone when I fly. That's called, "being considerate."