Originally Posted by
Boggie Dog
Are there such reward programs in TSA?
Not that I know of as a matter of policy, but I have heard reports of awards being given for finding items (guns are the only thing I can recall at the moment and I can't find the article on it, it was like 5 or more years ago).
Originally Posted by
Boggie Dog
So TSA senior management are constitutional experts?
What I see from TSA is attempts to push the limits until someone (courts) pulls them back, yet legislation makes it almost impossible to take legal action against TSA.
I don't think our founders would approve of this situation or of TSA and I feel sorry that supposedly good citizens can somehow justify working for this agency.
Not necessarily, but I do know other people than TSA senior management.
Originally Posted by
RichardKenner
But that gets tricky because you're a human being. Here's a scenario that may well have been what happened in the kiddy porn case. You're looking through a bag and there's an envelope full of pictures. One of them falls out. That picture is of a naked young child. From that picture, you can't tell whether it's an innocent picture of a toddler about to take a bath or potential kiddy porn. Do you look in the envelope at the rest of the pictures to decide what to do? Do you call an LEO? The former is clearly outside of the SOP. The latter is somewhat dubious because the picture in itself is not suggestive of anything illegal. So the line is even finer.
Agree that this is a touchy issue, but I tend to operate based on what I can glean from the actual situation. Based on your situation, there is no overt indication of child pornography, simply a photo of a naked young child. I think that more of us have photos of our family members in less clothing than they are usually in, and none of them have any sexual component at all. I even have a pic of my daughter when she was tiny (6-7 months old) sitting in a bucket with full imagery of her above the waist with a huge smile, it was a great picture. There are tons of art exhibits with naked imagery of children and adults. Without fairly conclusive evidence that it is actually pornography (such as sexual acts or lewd posing) it is simply a photo of a child in their natural state.
Originally Posted by
jkhuggins
C'mon ... that's not what he said. There's plenty of room between "knowing more than I do" and "constitutional expert".
TSA has lawyers that claim that what TSA is doing is constitutional. No challenge to TSA procedures has been successful to date; that doesn't mean a future challenge won't be successful, of course, but it also means that the procedures aren't laughably unconstitutional. gosltso's statement still holds; unless someone gets a court to intervene in ways they haven't done to date, or senior management changes direction, TSA's current procedures are what we're all stuck with.
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