Originally Posted by
medic51vrf
My philosophy is don't forget what your goals are at the time and make waves in the appopriate way, at the appropriate time. With regard to the OP, if her goal was to keep her charts and get on the jet without incident she IMO went about it the wrong way. If her goal was to "stick it up" the TSA (possibly at the cost of her charts and a bit of agrivation) then she probably accomplished her goal at some level but I doubt the idiot that took them will even remember the incident.
Originally Posted by
joeyrukkus
I have to agree with this post. I read this forum all the time and get a kick out of all the people who seem to go through security secretly hoping to make some kind of waves so they can come on here and tell everyone how right they were and how wrong TSA was. In the end though what really happened? The TSA get to trade stories of some self rightous guy making waves for no gain but to come on here and say how smart and right they were.
Wholeheartedly agree with these posts. There are so many radical, extreme posts here that it seems most everyone with a moderate, rational approach is gone. When you take a simple idea such as "the TSA oversteps their role and needs to have an approach to security that makes sense," and turn it into an extreme such as "the TSA is the first step in the rise of a tyrannical dictatorship," all you're accomplishing is alienating people with sensibility. You take the people that might actually listen and drive them away. You turn a perfectly reasonable goal into a conspiracy theory that's no less pathetic than 911 Truthers, Birthers, and people that don't believe we landed on the moon.
If you want to accomplish a goal, you need the mainstream, not the fringe.
I've seen posters on this board talk about how pat-downs are sexual assault and they'll have a TSA arrested if they do it. Yet, I once asked the question: "Has anyone *actually* filed a sexual assault complaint against a TSO?" Not one single person said they had done so. If it's all just bravado, whining, and b----ing, what's the point?
Originally Posted by
Caradoc
Typically, the supervisor will back the ignorant TSA clerk to the point of absurdity.
That hasn't been my experience. While there are undoubtedly outliers, the bulk of STSOs I've escalated to over matters where I knew I was right (and where it did matter) have pulled the TSO aside and instructed them on the actual rules. And yes, I've overheard the conversations on multiple occasions.