Difficult as it may be to believe: we've been living in BJ for 9 months now, but have not yet made it out to the GW. We thought we would wait for visitors, since they would want to go, and we're getting our first batch now. My mother (mid 70s, reasonably fit for her age, but not 'super fit') and sister are coming. The five of us (i.e. them, my wife, 3 yo daughter and I) will want to go check out the Wall finally.

A visiting student intern of mine recently went to Badaling on a 'tour', and really enjoyed it. I had always been put off Badaling since I had heard of the tourist hordes etc. However, he also mentioned that the stairs were extremely steep, which made me a little worried about how my mother (and daughter) may cope. Although I had been led to believe Badaling is more easy going than other sections.

Secondly, although board received wisdom is defintely not take a tour, I was again, looking for input. Since there are five of us, a regular taxi/ small car will either be uncomfortable or impossible, which would raise the costs of arranging private transport. Also, this particular tour, which my student went on, had an english speaking guide, included Badaling, Ming tombs and also the inevitable jade factory which he said was actually interesting, quick, and not too hard sell.

Totally trust the regulars on the board, and was wondering what you would all recommend?

thanks!

tb