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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 10:17 am
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scwam
 
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
But with a cash advance on a credit card, don't you start getting charged the cash advance interest rate on the amount you withdrew itself, from the moment you make the withdrawael, with no grace period (like you have for purchases), and if so don't you have to factor that in? The cash advance interest rate, even if onlyfor a few days (say, you pay the card balance off as soon as you get to someplace you can do that online, it still takes a few days to show up as paid) will be way way more than any C/A fee or foreign transcation fee would have been.

So I don't even see the point of worrying that much about whether credit card cash advances have a slight fee or not, because IMHO that's fairly irrelevant compared to the bigger cost of the instant cash advance interest rate that's applied to them.

(And I'm not sure you can extrapolate from fees or no fees on a credit cash advance at a particular ATM to whether or not you would have had any fees on a compeltely different bank account debit card at the same ATM. The same ATM can do completely different things fee-wise for a credit cash advance than for a debit withdrawal, and of course at your end the fees vary from card to card and account to account.)
Yeah, interest starts from transaction date, but at a maximum of 10% apy for the next 2 years I think it's alright compared to Chase's 3% to 5% min $10 fee up front + interest. Chase had the C/A post from China in 2 days. I paid it off immediately. I think it boils down to how much you withdraw and how quickly you plan to get the C/a paid off. I don't think you'd want to do this if you have a high balance that needs to be paid as typically their is a heirarchy of payment allocation where payments go towards purchases first and C/a principle is usually last. I used an ATM in walmart and it had no fee, just the ~0.7% conversion loss.

In the penfed case and if the conversion is good then the interest would be 10% / 365 days = .02739 daily interest rate * 30 days * $1,000 C/a = $8.22 per month interest (simple).
Actually would be slightly higher because of compounding.

This is my chase transaction:

06/08/2012 Fee
TRANSACTION FEE $10.32

06/08/2012
Cash Advance 0330005133301/SELF-SERVI $206.31
DA LIAN000000000CN
In-person transaction

This was $1300 RMB made 6/8 3am EST or 3pm China time.

Edit, I recalculated my Forex conversion and I believe it's higher than I thought (about 1.1%)

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