Surely this is a 2 way street?

A GREAT deal of what was posted by loose cannon moderators had NOTHING WHATEVER to do with moderating threads. It was malicious and defamatory and divisive to FT, and un-called for. And the private mods board here got closed down because of it.

And glossing over or neatly side-stepping that will not make those TOS breaching posts ever disappear.

Several of the primary "offenders" do not agree with me, this is clear. So we will need to agree to disagree on the content of those messages, and not re-hash and dissect the posts here and sidetrack this thread.

It is not the end of the world. Start a Yahoo Groups board in 5 minutes if discussing these issues is such a big concern for the few of you who seem still in denial over it.

It was all coming from a VERY few folks, that bought shame IMO on all their truly "moderate" colleagues. If they choose not to now moderate - their choice entirely, but please do not vent and blame problems of your own making on others.

Now their direct actions are all 'someone else's' fault. The owner of this board it seems. Cute logic. Nice work. Some gratitude for this great resource we all share.

If there are 50-100 whatever Mods, precious few are joining this chorus, so they appear un-concerned with the way Flyertalk is run. Probably as they have done or secretly posted NOTHING to be ashamed of, and are quite happy with the status quo?

I have previously posted that the VAST majority of moderation here IMHO is effective, fair and unobtrusive. From a great bunch of volunteer folks who do FT proud.

The ones who are making the loudest noises in this Forum appear to be the ones who by their own actions (no-one else's) had the Mods board closed as it was becoming a little like Jerry Springer. As we all saw over the weekend. I will name no names as they are obvious to all.

FlyerTalk will be a better, more enjoyable and more open, and a FAR more transparent place to be in the future I really do believe, especially when some apparently bruised egos get a little more of that BRIGHT SUNSHINE of exposure tanning them. .

I personally do not feel FT needs a paid "Manager". This is and always has been Randy's Board. He calls the shots, and appoints others to assist him if they volunteer and are suitable. With a couple of exceptions in recent years this seems to have worked pretty well.

Like any sizeable organisation, some of those folks come, some of them go. From Talk Board, From Moderators, from regular posters. C'est la vie. But Randy still calls the shots.

I think it was either kokonutz or Premex that used the term "Benevolent Dictator". With no disrespect at all to Randy that is also how I see his role. And whilst I have had more than my fair share of e-mailed kicks up the 'you-know-where' over the years he has always acted fairly in my view and with good reason, and I do not argue or whine back at his decisions.

If Randy does not like something he sees - he acts on it. (Tell me about it!) Randy can't and will not see everything, and that is just the way it is.

And I hope it never changes.

This is after all a (superb) Travel Bulletin Board - not the US Congress or IBM.

Let us never lose that of that reality.


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~ Glen ~ sipping bubbly from a UA 747-400 exit row 15 near you SOON!