didn't mean to insult anyone.. I did say "pretty useless" it's just that NH miles did have amazing value Iv'e done F on VS (for 63K and $150 in tax) a few times that was one the best mileage redemption's around add on ~$700-800 in Fuel and UA becomes way more attractive.. paying double the price is considered "useless" in my book. Id love to be proven wrong -- please provide one itinerary which is more worthwhile now using NH miles for rather than partners..