<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ScottC:
The moderators have already made it clear that regardless of someones opinions, if it complies with the FT TOS that person is allowed to post. I'd like to ask you to look into these threads and come up with a solution, it's bad for the United board and as the problem is all over FT I also feel it's bad for FT.
Enough is enough. Those that don't stick to the TOS should take their timeout, those that TROLL on purpose should cease doing so.
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My issues are not with
avek00 as a person, for I have never met him and know nothing about him, so it's pretty hard to form any sort of opinion on him.
My issues are with his often (not always, but often) inflamatory remarks in the UA forum that seem to serve only two purposes:
1) inciting almost Pavlovian replies from a handful of FTers, almost always disparaging;
2) forcing the moderators to close these threads, thereby denying the remaining FT community on the UA forum the chance to discuss/debate the issue.
I have attempted to debate
avek00 on many of his statements, but generally he ignores any rational/logical/reasonable rebuttal in favor of those who do not respond that way to him, helping to fan the flames until the moderators come in and close the thread.
Only this morning,
two threads on reports that UA may be considering leaving bankruptcy in Q3 2003 instead of Q2 2004 have been closed - one within
three responses. In both cases,
avek00 made a comment that UA should exit C11 by filing C7. Within seconds, the Pavlovian attacks began and the moderators had to close the threads moments later.
Frankly, both parties are at fault.
avek00 for using language he knew would upset UA flyers, and "the usual suspects" who seem to only be able to respond to his posts with sarcasim and derogatory comments.
avek00 should be privately counseled to moderate his tone. He is welcome to post on the UA forum even if he does not fly UA. But just as I would be out of line to constantly reply to every post in the CO forum - regardless of topic - with "Gordon Bethune is an idiot and CO will file C7 because he runs them",
avek00 is also out of line with his equally inflammatory remarks in the UA forum.
As for "the usual suspects", they also need to be counseled privately to "shoot the message, and not the messanger". Debunking the views of
avek00 with factual, knowledgeable, and intelligent replies is far more effective than calling him names.
Banning
avek00 will solve nothing in the long run. We must all acts like adults, regardless of our age, and remember that FlyerTalk is a
community and not a verbal wrestling ring.
And, Randy - it was wonderful seeing you and Julie last weekend here in Seattle.