I also do not know the inside scoop on this.
But having been involved in the long dead and buried past in a separate project with those mentioned, I can completely understand Randy's comments...especially about not knowing people as well as one thought.
Then again, maybe these folks were just "testing limits" again, and really not in any way responsible for their actions. After all, if one is only conducting a self imposed, unannounced "test" one can behave anyway they want and still claim to be on the "high road".
(Apologies to anyone I may have confused, but this was a point that needed to be made even if only to the few that understand.)
[This message has been edited by NJDavid (edited 01-21-2002).]