[quote]<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Thumper:
While we're discussing offensive comments Vic, I stumbled across this gem of yours...
Originally posted by VicOsaki:
When we were running around naked in the junior high gym showers virtually all the boys were circumcised. There were probably too many Jewish doctors back then.
I notice you have chosen not to edit nor retract it.
[This message has been edited by Thumper
(edited 11-29-2001).]
Dear Thumper --
Don't hold your breath. I have now learned that one can say anything they want on this board about a religion, ethnic group, race, etc. and provide the most offensive stereotypes imaginable, but the powers that be, and evidently many of the FT membership do not care, so long as you do not lauch a "personal attack" at the perpetrator for their offensive statements.
I had not realized this until the following post by Rudi:
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Rudi:
please, as we often succeeded in the past, just don't reply (don't post) to personal name-callings/attacks. Feel free to voice your opinion about (any/most) topics, but let aside any personal attacks, concentrate on the 'issues at stake' not on the persons 'behind' - please.
Please believe in the intelligence (and integrity/fairness) of most FlyerTalkers, that you don't have to defend your personal positions when attacked. The attackers (dis-) qualify themselves.
Please don't bring the flame wars and name-callings back to the top of the list again and again. </font>
You see, no where does he state that offensive characterizations of a people, religion, ethnic group, etc. are "verboten," only "personal attacks." One can concentrate on the "issues at stake" even if they offensively characterize a religion's traditions, or they convey thoughts that are racist, etc.
Well, that is certainly emblematic of the Swiss, and their double dealing. After all, they traded with the Nazis right up through the end of WWII knowing that the British and the rest of Europe were virtually bankrupt from the war and would be looking for reconstruction money, so that their double dealing would go unpunished.
Moreover, most would now concede, although not the Swiss, that the money they provided for the reconstruction was from the Swiss Bank accounts they encouraged their Jewish clientele to open, but that they would not return to their benefactors or their descendants.
Notice, Rudi, that this statement is NOT a personal attack as those are verboten, merely an observation of mine that has as much right to be voiced on these pages as VICOSAKI'S "JEWISH DOCTORS" trash, Stimpy's "nefarious controlling cabal of US and worldwide Jewish/Zionist opinion makers, media magnates and lobbyists," and my favorite, BOOBOOKITTY's "well-reasoned" judgment that the Jewish circumscision rite is a masquerade for what it apparently really is, much to my wonderment, for it is nothing more than a pedophile's delight.
I understand now. "Personal Attacks" -- NO -- Bigoted and Racist Rhetoric -- Fine.
[This message has been edited by DOC 2 BE (edited 11-29-2001).]