Yeah, but WN can't fly OAK-HNL (yet), and HA is flying it with a widebody (read: fuel pig).

It also doesn't make any real sense to fly DEN-OAK-HNL as a tag when DEN-OAK is dominated so much by WN that UA and F9 (hubbed at DEN) won't even bother to fly it, and AS can just fly planes SEA-OAK-HNL from their hub (in a much more competitive position there than at DEN- SEA-OAK is a larger market than DEN-OAK). The reality is if you're going to fly that 738 from somewhere, it should be from SEA.

I'd be skeptical because there's a bunch of SFO/SJC-ORD service (AA, VX, UA) and OAK-MDW service (WN) that would just kill AS on frequencies and pricing power in the market, unless they wanted to go in at 2x/3x, and even then... not seeing it.

The thing is: for an airline that's supposedly been in retreat from WN, AS has sneakily managed to end up serving MORE locations out of SJC than WN, and managed to push WN off of GEG-PDX/SEA- and if they win their SAN-DCA slot proposal, they'll be pretty viable in California. I wonder- at what point does SJC get to be considered a fourth hub? When does SAN get focus city status?