Originally Posted by
cmaas
I think you got your terms wrong. There is no "Premium Affairies". La Premiere = 1st, Affairies = business, Premium Voyageur = Economy Comfort, Voyageur = economy.
Actually, there is "Premium Affaires", it's the name AF uses for it's short/medium-haul, intra-European "business" class (aka blocked middle seat and a "meal").
I would also not equate Premium Voyageur and Economy Comfort, as Economy Comfort is the standard Y seat with more leg room and recline, while Premium Voyageur is a completely different seat.
Originally Posted by
cmaas
On AF (NOT KLM) you can purchase Economy and get into Premium Voyageur for free. As ST Elite+ get a discount on KLM.
Huh? Barring an op-up, you're not going to get AF's PV product for free on an economy ticket. Further, Economy Comfort should be free on KL for PMs and DMs, although this is a bit hit or miss, unfortunately.
Originally Posted by
cmaas
So you may be correct on policy, I'm frankly not sure - but my experience has been that I've sat in PV paying economy fares. Don't recall exact stats - maybe 3 for 3 or 4 for 4. Do have to buy PV to upgrade to Affaires (SWU or miles), however.
How full were these flights? Sounds like they might have been op-ups. You're sure they were PV seats (shell seats that slide to recline) and not just "seat plus" economy seats with more legroom?