I can say that personally, I have decided to do NO more business with any Cartera mall and would rather go without miles from shopping online than to give the portals a whirl (I'm still waiting on missing miles from a fall new UA ToolBar spend, and a late fall DL toolbar download bonus, and of course thousands of miles from hundreds of transactions from the UA MP shopping portal)

For FC, I have recently used the HA one for very small things and do not expect them to post but when they do I am happy. They've already burned me and many others on big gigs with this airline in the recent past. But for now, I have to get to 30k HA miles and have just shy of that amount right now. So once I reach that mark I wont be using FC anymore either. Yes there are other ways, but I still do need paper, ink and such sometimes.

While I've toyed with the idea of doing this with Nordstrom and the BA mall, the only shopping portal I would consider going forward is the UR Chase one, but I'm new to them, having only just gotten and reached spend on the Sapphire and Ink Bold cards.

For now, to be completely honest, I am almost liberated to NOT have to reply on or wait for posts of miles to come from online mall shopping. the last one I did was that iTune for 1 mile above on US Air (Cartera) and a Staples purchase for about 50 miles on HA (FC)

The malls have pretty much lost my business.

one would think if they wanted it, or wanted it from people like me (who have the money and desire to play the game when it works) they would shape up.

I think people who want to use Groupon and/or other similar coupons AND also use the malls SHOULD get credits on both. It'd be just like if you have say, a manufacturer's coupon at a store for something you buy and also a store coupon too. Many savvy people like this sort of thing no matter their income level. If companies cannot grasp that or allow for it, they lose.