Ok, so I broke down and bought a pair....because they can be returned.
The pair I bought, seriously odd cut. They were a return also (they only had a few pair in stock and most were out of the box). The waist was TINY, I mean oddly small and no stretch at all, and the butt and legs were loose. I usually have the opposite problem. And I was surprised by the bright pink drawstring.
The look was meh...I agree. But the clincher I think was for 40 bucks I have to really like them, and I don't... so back they go.
Thanks for the input. I think I will get a nice high-end pair of yoga pants instead.