<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy:
...doc, This is just not true. There are plenty of threads/posts that you make that I object to. I do not post a reply to over 90% of those threads/posts.
If I was on a "Crusade", wouldn't I be posting a reply to all of the threads/posts that I object to?
...Agreed, but I am trying to engage in a civil and logical debate here. If you are not interested in such, please just say so. I have a number of good friends who are not on the same plane as me politically. We engage in some very spririted debates. If we agreed, there would be no basis for a debate.
...I think you are mistaking me for someone else. I questioned whether you flew CO. As for the Post Count Question, it still remains unanswered.
...Fine and dandy, but by your own admission, this is a suggestion. Why post it here in Comunnity, when we have a Suggestions Forum?
...If you don't like the distractions, why start a non-travel, non-miles, non-points related thread?
...I am trying to be constructive. You replied to comments of mine that were not even addressed to you. You also did this in the 20K thread. Your replies in both of those threads where, IMHO, an attack on me. Is that constructive?
Rather than attack back, I have tried to engage in a civil and logical debate.
...I have no idea what you are talking about here. Is this is some form of a threat?
As I have said before, I am trying to engage in a civil and logical debate. Last I heard, neither one of those was in violation of the TOS.
If you are not interested in a civil and logical debate, please just say so. I would then be more than happy to leave this thread alone.
Please note that I am refering to this thread. I reserve the right to try to engage in civil and logical debates on future topics.
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I see you that you apparently decided not to take the earlier advice to take more time to read, and to think, nor to channel your efforts more positively!
Well, perhaps I may simply quote Gaucho with whom I'm inclined to agree, for obvious reasons!
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Gaucho100K:
Certainly. You are the enlightened one, what else could I do but fold before you...?
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It is clear from your past posts that your definition of "logic" and of "civility" as well as many other terms, are so incredibly divergent from mine, that it would, sadly, necessarily preclude any further intelligent discussion, IMHO.
Nontheless, I will address one point you raised, as it directly addresses your credibility, or in this case rather, your
lack of credibility!
You stated that you never said that I did not fly NWA, yet...
Here is just one, but not the only case where you absolutely
did categorically say that I had not flown NWA. Others also include, but are not limited to, email exchanges that we had, both before and after this post of yours:
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy:
...Most of us here know that Doc does not like and has not flown NW for some time...
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http://www.flyertalk.com/pasttalk/ft...ML/003707.html
Additionally, as is so often the case, please note that you presumed to speak not just for yourself, but for "most." I have not shared the content of your emails to me here for obvious reasons! In one, however, you'll recall that you shared your feelings about US Air in order to make an analogy. I imagine this might help jostle your memory, and if not, you can look it up, if interested! I have also heard, second hand, about many of your verbal comments concerning me from others - yet I do not count that of course! Perhaps you have made so darn many criticims of me over these years that you have actually lost tract!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Eugene:
Dear Doc -- Please give credit where it's due: it was not CameraGuy who, who posted the following in this thread:
Originally posted by MJW:
doc - <snip> you haven't flown NW at all as a Gold Elite member. </font>
Have a great weekend!
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Eugene- Thanks so very much for trying to help out CameraGuy here! Yet, in your haste, or perhaps even with malicious intent, you have accidentally, or perhaps purposely, missed two critically important points here.
The first is that CameraGuy
did in fact state this and apparently, he simply forgot, as I just noted above. You too must have just missed it!
The second point is that there is a huge difference, as I'm sure an intelligent gentleman like yourself well knows, between not flying an airline, and not flying them as a specific level elite of said carrier such as Silver, Gold or Platinum, or a regular member. The
important part here is "...at all as a
Gold Elite member." And that too is not nearly so simple as was unfortunately portrayed here, since I should have been credited as a Gold!
There were also several issues ongoing around the time with NWA, which I was then still flying, albeit minimally. Some of them some of which were posted here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/pasttalk/ft...ML/000716.html
And moreover, MJW, who tried to aid me and many others, and whom I like a great deal, very much to her credit, made a point of commenting further in a very classy, apologetic vein after:
"...There were some individuals who wore me out a bit with their constant bashing of NWA... and I admit that I have made comments to that effect in the past. Looking back, that was probably not very professional and I wish I had bitten my tongue..."
http://www.flyertalk.com/pasttalk/ft...ML/001512.html
Yet all of this is irrelevant. He said he did not say it, but in fact he did, and we had discussed it many times.
So while I wish I could give him some credit here as you suggest, I can't! And I wish I could give you some credit as well. But, again, sadly, not in this particular case!
Have a great weekend everyone!
[This message has been edited by doc (edited 07-26-2002).]